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Post by >nocturnal< on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:05 pm

bumi dragon lord wrote:all of facts you all have gave is the cost of possibility that may make human going to extinction.

but if you all keep on mourning here and there there will be no changes. why not believe in human that we can make things right even though there are a lot of those bast*rds out there are making the situation worse?

population of human is rising up every 3 second. that consistency is killing the mother earth.

but hey, don't you all know that mother earth is reacting too? the universe and other organism as well?

population of human will eventually declining cause of some of selfish people who create the sphere of wealth in various way.

but hey mother nature is having her way,

tsunami in all of sudden in indon,
viruses occur one after another which kill thousands of thousands of people,
war age where people are reacting to ward another killing each other, ideology is even worse it makes you believe and embrace the identity which you might forgot your self,
water is rising every year 10mm,
the sun is getting bigger,
every 400million years the asteriod hit the earth as expected,
we are killing each other for stupid reason,
and evolution of other organism might cost humans life in billion.

all of this is killing human but not necessary will make human gone to extinction.

fromw hat i know is that some of you are too obsess with the media that plays your mind like 50 years ago in america where 'invation of mars' was introduce and channel in life in radio which makes one of the city all the residents run to caves to hide cause they BELIEVE its true.

there is no doubt human species is threaten, but talk about extinction which have no base of research and matured thinking is not an option but decision on you believe that may happen or you will do something about it.

talking cannot change anything, taking action for 'revolution' is what i think that some of you should do instead of acting like a child.

this is forum, where everyone shares their piece of mind but please, share with facts which is not manipulated your own sensational reason and purposes.


may be you should make a new topic entitled "how can we prevent human extinction?". this thread is about "how human can become extinct?".

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Re: human become extinct???

Post by BabyTsukasa on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:12 pm

i agree with bumi dragon lord...it is obvious what we had done to ruin our sanctuary...we must do something about it...not only for us...for the next generation..it is our responsibility to gives a better world to the next generation, we owe the next generation al lot...start small, by being green...green...green

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Post by lightning_siput on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:43 pm

"Sun consuming Earth" will not happen in our lifetime; based on studies that will happen in 5 billion years in the future, i believe human are already forgotten by other living kind.

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Post by max-oasism on Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:35 pm

karoshi wrote:
bumi dragon lord wrote:all of facts you all have gave is the cost of possibility that may make human going to extinction.

but if you all keep on mourning here and there there will be no changes. why not believe in human that we can make things right even though there are a lot of those bast*rds out there are making the situation worse?

population of human is rising up every 3 second. that consistency is killing the mother earth.

but hey, don't you all know that mother earth is reacting too? the universe and other organism as well?

population of human will eventually declining cause of some of selfish people who create the sphere of wealth in various way.

but hey mother nature is having her way,

tsunami in all of sudden in indon,
viruses occur one after another which kill thousands of thousands of people,
war age where people are reacting to ward another killing each other, ideology is even worse it makes you believe and embrace the identity which you might forgot your self,
water is rising every year 10mm,
the sun is getting bigger,
every 400million years the asteriod hit the earth as expected,
we are killing each other for stupid reason,
and evolution of other organism might cost humans life in billion.

all of this is killing human but not necessary will make human gone to extinction.

fromw hat i know is that some of you are too obsess with the media that plays your mind like 50 years ago in america where 'invation of mars' was introduce and channel in life in radio which makes one of the city all the residents run to caves to hide cause they BELIEVE its true.

there is no doubt human species is threaten, but talk about extinction which have no base of research and matured thinking is not an option but decision on you believe that may happen or you will do something about it.

talking cannot change anything, taking action for 'revolution' is what i think that some of you should do instead of acting like a child.

this is forum, where everyone shares their piece of mind but please, share with facts which is not manipulated your own sensational reason and purposes.


may be you should make a new topic entitled "how can we prevent human extinction?". this thread is about "how human can become extinct?".


its very clear that he state human does not extinct but human like you influence by media think it this way.
i agree with bumi dragon lord that human will not extinct but the population only decline, tsunami is the example. if God or mother earth is really reacting, no one will survive, but i think God is the God of second chances thats why no human shall perish as its the agreement that God has made with Noah. he also agree that he wont use the method again to deal with the wicked one.

one think that indicate your self karoshi, you dont believe in human ability to save the earth or at least save our own species. or to say, you dont believe in yourself to make the things right as well.

extinction from waht i can see is human often cannot get the answer and try to get from others like how you post the topics to answer your own questions. it can be an old question that you ahvent been to answer or current questions.

i may be died in the extinction like you said for all teh causes, but not all human is going to die with me.

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Post by max-oasism on Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:37 pm

lightning_siput wrote:"Sun consuming Earth" will not happen in our lifetime; based on studies that will happen in 5 billion years in the future, i believe human are already forgotten by other living kind.


theres another hypothesis of the consequences of the sun consumption.
human may not be forgotten, throughout that time, technology is far beyond our expectation and imaginaries. so human may escape to other planet or like you said vanquish into dust....

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Post by >nocturnal< on Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:41 pm

max-oasism wrote:
karoshi wrote:
bumi dragon lord wrote:all of facts you all have gave is the cost of possibility that may make human going to extinction.

but if you all keep on mourning here and there there will be no changes. why not believe in human that we can make things right even though there are a lot of those bast*rds out there are making the situation worse?

population of human is rising up every 3 second. that consistency is killing the mother earth.

but hey, don't you all know that mother earth is reacting too? the universe and other organism as well?

population of human will eventually declining cause of some of selfish people who create the sphere of wealth in various way.

but hey mother nature is having her way,

tsunami in all of sudden in indon,
viruses occur one after another which kill thousands of thousands of people,
war age where people are reacting to ward another killing each other, ideology is even worse it makes you believe and embrace the identity which you might forgot your self,
water is rising every year 10mm,
the sun is getting bigger,
every 400million years the asteriod hit the earth as expected,
we are killing each other for stupid reason,
and evolution of other organism might cost humans life in billion.

all of this is killing human but not necessary will make human gone to extinction.

fromw hat i know is that some of you are too obsess with the media that plays your mind like 50 years ago in america where 'invation of mars' was introduce and channel in life in radio which makes one of the city all the residents run to caves to hide cause they BELIEVE its true.

there is no doubt human species is threaten, but talk about extinction which have no base of research and matured thinking is not an option but decision on you believe that may happen or you will do something about it.

talking cannot change anything, taking action for 'revolution' is what i think that some of you should do instead of acting like a child.

this is forum, where everyone shares their piece of mind but please, share with facts which is not manipulated your own sensational reason and purposes.


may be you should make a new topic entitled "how can we prevent human extinction?". this thread is about "how human can become extinct?".


its very clear that he state human does not extinct but human like you influence by media think it this way.
i agree with bumi dragon lord that human will not extinct but the population only decline, tsunami is the example. if God or mother earth is really reacting, no one will survive, but i think God is the God of second chances thats why no human shall perish as its the agreement that God has made with Noah. he also agree that he wont use the method again to deal with the wicked one.

one think that indicate your self karoshi, you dont believe in human ability to save the earth or at least save our own species. or to say, you dont believe in yourself to make the things right as well.

extinction from waht i can see is human often cannot get the answer and try to get from others like how you post the topics to answer your own questions. it can be an old question that you ahvent been to answer or current questions.

i may be died in the extinction like you said for all teh causes, but not all human is going to die with me.


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Post by .+.masquerade.+. on Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:01 am

BabyTsukasa wrote:
psylancer wrote:Or, we can make a cryogenic chamber and fast forward to the world we know as futurama. :D
Just saying...


Preservation mammal by cryogenic is rather hard, high water content means dehydration needed, which means death to most cell....i'm not sure about the latest technology...but last time, pouring liquid nitrogens to my bacteria for storage at -80 degree celcius gives me slight idea why it doesn't work well with animal cells...but recently they stored tissues like embryonic cord in liquid nitrogen for future used....i think the future can be promising or shall i say...freezing?


Can we keep people alive by freezing them? Can people suffering from incurable diseases be put into deep-freeze until such time as a cure is found, and then revived? The simple answer is no.

Interestingly, human life can survive sub-zero temperatures in a metabolically inactive dormant state. Sperm, eggs and even embryos kept in liquid nitrogen at -196 °C, can be thawed and used successfully in infertility treatment.

However, it is not possible to freeze people and bring them back to life. One of the main problems is that the formation of ice crystals destroys the cells, but a critical factor in maintaining life seems to be the timescale involved: ice crystals take time to develop. When very small samples are immersed in liquid nitrogen, the freezing process happens rapidly: the molecules simply 'lock' in position and ice crystals do not form. The cells and organelles are not damaged, and, when thawed, function normally. This technique, however, only works with tiny samples of tissue, which freeze instantly and entirely.

(P/S: If we developed a way of instantaneously freezing all the cell of a fully developed human, could they be thawed out and live to tell the tale? Only time will tell.)

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Post by fat_bunny on Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:20 am

well... human...we make ourselves extinct...

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Post by Acme on Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:02 am

If you have instant frost of human, the heart beat will stopped. Then how are you going to start the pulse after instant defrost? If one could do so, getting heart attack is no more a disease. Cells might survive but the life and soul would be not there.

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Post by .+.masquerade.+. on Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:09 am

Acme wrote:If you have instant frost of human, the heart beat will stopped. Then how are you going to start the pulse after instant defrost? If one could do so, getting heart attack is no more a disease. Cells might survive but the life and soul would be not there.


A human get heart attack in the instant-freezing condition because the body temperature drops so much. Thus, in order to maintain it, the heart need to do much work to transport the blood to every part of the body. Blood is one of the body temperature regulation mechamism. It has to do more work than the usual. Until a certain limit, the heart get 'tired'. Hence, the person will get heart attack.

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Post by lightning_siput on Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:24 am

.+.masquerade.+. wrote:
BabyTsukasa wrote:
psylancer wrote:Or, we can make a cryogenic chamber and fast forward to the world we know as futurama. :D
Just saying...


Preservation mammal by cryogenic is rather hard, high water content means dehydration needed, which means death to most cell....i'm not sure about the latest technology...but last time, pouring liquid nitrogens to my bacteria for storage at -80 degree celcius gives me slight idea why it doesn't work well with animal cells...but recently they stored tissues like embryonic cord in liquid nitrogen for future used....i think the future can be promising or shall i say...freezing?


Can we keep people alive by freezing them? Can people suffering from incurable diseases be put into deep-freeze until such time as a cure is found, and then revived? The simple answer is no.

Interestingly, human life can survive sub-zero temperatures in a metabolically inactive dormant state. Sperm, eggs and even embryos kept in liquid nitrogen at -196 °C, can be thawed and used successfully in infertility treatment.

However, it is not possible to freeze people and bring them back to life. One of the main problems is that the formation of ice crystals destroys the cells, but a critical factor in maintaining life seems to be the timescale involved: ice crystals take time to develop. When very small samples are immersed in liquid nitrogen, the freezing process happens rapidly: the molecules simply 'lock' in position and ice crystals do not form. The cells and organelles are not damaged, and, when thawed, function normally. This technique, however, only works with tiny samples of tissue, which freeze instantly and entirely.

(P/S: If we developed a way of instantaneously freezing all the cell of a fully developed human, could they be thawed out and live to tell the tale? Only time will tell.)


Maybe we can keep a molecule database (its properties and characteristics?) and replicate the whole structure later on?

btw, is soul ever considered in scientific field?

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