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Post by candyclk Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:53 am

i want to share my experience. that day, mid autumn day, a QQQsms me ask me to the assignment for QQQ. QQQ say can pay for me. i was very worry that this is plaglarism and decide to ask for friend opinion. everyone disagree wih this "helping other to do" things. then at night, QQQ even call me and ask whether anyone in my faculty can do for QQQ.QQQ willing to pay for the sum. i total went blank. i never know this kind of thing really exist. so i just ask QQQ to wait lah. now is okliao. no more disturbing sms.

although i lack of money, but i will not betray myself.

will you pay to do assignment?
will you do other assignment and get paid?
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Post by Daniel Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:31 pm

yes anything for money.
Just do assignment only ma!
Nothing much.
Its hard to track if no one know about it.
So what subject QQQ ask u to do?
This is quite interesting topic :o
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Post by Nathalie Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:35 pm

oh.. last time my group also thinking about paid someone to do our assignment but in the end we didn't do it.. :) but i know many other groups paid people to do the project for them.. when thinking back, we better do it by our own.. its for our sake too.. at least we know what we are doing and learn something..right? so..gambatte everyone... :D
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Post by jin_wan Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:44 pm

sometime. It's also return in other way like treat dinner or drink.
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Post by Nathalie Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:59 pm

treat dinner or drink? if the assignment is big project,how? treat dinner or drink is not enough for their work...hehe
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Post by Acme Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:31 pm

Payment for assignment is fine in uni, as long both stick to their "contract" either by words of spoken or written.

To me its fine to do assignments for others. $_$ is all that counts. Its just the same as being a free rider, just they pay others to do for them.
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Post by Kopitiam_kaki™ Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:14 am

pay ppl to do assignment..? then watz the point og cuming to UNI?...might well pay to buy a degree Cert or mayb Master or even pHD.....
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Post by snow Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:42 am

there is no way 2 help them do but jux teach/guide them how2 do lo...
i really 1st time heard bout tis...

normally the problems i face jux those ppl who lazy do n alwaz melengahkan masa in the own group project... i dislike those ppl....
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Post by Daniel Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:01 pm

snow wrote:there is no way 2 help them do but jux teach/guide them how2 do lo...
i really 1st time heard bout tis...

normally the problems i face jux those ppl who lazy do n alwaz melengahkan masa in the own group project... i dislike those ppl....

but do u think we just got one assignment for a time only ma.
What if there are 3 or 4 project need to submit on that week.
So this time is when this ppl be useful.
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Post by rainny08 Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:04 pm

It is no point that if u pay for other people to do the assignment. Then, we can't learn anything. We should take the opportunity to learn in doing the assignment.
However, if friends, then can reference how they do the assignment. Friends should help each other.At least don't copy sebulat-bulat then should be OK la.
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Post by bumi dragon lord Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:18 pm

got people have assignment want others to help them to finish?
PM me, hahahahaha
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Post by c_O Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:11 pm

OMG...
learn nothing...
earn money by doing illegal work for the others...
!!!! too over...
Juz refer or copy their works(less than 50% n nt to copy directly lar) ...at least can let u understand wat u re doing..
Hehe :lol!:
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Post by 0629 Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:35 am

haha...somebody ask me before this question..but i reject because my assignment is endless...if i free..i think i iwll do it..this is another ways to earn money by using our knowledge and our thinking..this is no plagarism.. we can anothers method to do de..no need exactly some our assignment...haha.. :p
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Post by bumi dragon lord Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:26 pm

whatlah, there are better way to do assignment oh.... no need to copy one.

may be copy 50% can refer to other faculty, in fss there is no no, for sure it will be found out one. a lot of student kena already, some get 0 for that.
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Post by Daniel Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:10 pm

Our faculty last year kena last semester, almost all the student got 0 marks but we all not refer.
Because of this many student fail that subject.
All thing is depend on lecturer that how they evaluate us.
Even small small thing copy from internet also consider plagiat.
Any faculty kena like tat b4.
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Post by lightning_siput Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:48 pm

Copy pasta is actually illegal.. just that with internet, students have assumed to have anonymity to do it without the lecturer knowing.. But lecturer also know the student's capabilities hence kena tangkap...
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Post by Acme Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:20 pm

Daniel you're from which faculty?

By strictness, accord to FSS, any use/copy/reference or "quotation" with SEVEN words and more, need to be cited and given acknowledgment. Other faculty I'm not
sure. Mind enlighten me?

"Copying" is actually possible, if you're changing the sentence structure and the words, without changing the meaning it works. Same like the exam in PA or don't know which subject from secondary school one, summarizing the paragraph without changing the meaning.


rainny08 wrote:It is no point that if u pay for other people to do the assignment. Then, we can't learn anything. We should take the opportunity to learn in doing the assignment.

Nevertheless, in talking of not learning from assignment or the course studying, its more or less same as taking easy complementary courses to score A, for exmaple, Mandarin course. Quite a number of people are proficient and fluent in Mandarin and still taking it, for the sake of getting higher CGPA. Some people think in a shorter manner of "profit" same as to doing assignment and hiring people do to for them.

As for how lecturers can know you plagiarize? There is a website, specially made to scan through paper works and find for compatibility over the need resources, and also literature, academical books, articles and journals. Forget the website's name. *bad memories*. Second way is, the lecturer remember that they had read them before somewhere and seems familiar, so they start to search in their "collection" of your seniors' work. That's why exam and assignment you can't get back the original copy, they keep it. Other faculty, not sure.
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Post by Daniel Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:18 am

Actually i From FIT.
For tat subject is coding one, is not similar to ur FSS faculty, i try my best to change the code so it look not like copying but the algorithm is impossible to change but lecture consider it as plagiat.
In the end, the 10 marks ass lecturer only give *1* mark as kesian marks only.
HAiz!!!
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Post by Acme Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:43 am

Ouh, sad for you after all your hard work.
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Post by rainny08 Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:05 am

Daniel wrote:Actually i From FIT.
For tat subject is coding one, is not similar to ur FSS faculty, i try my best to change the code so it look not like copying but the algorithm is impossible to change but lecture consider it as plagiat.
In the end, the 10 marks ass lecturer only give *1* mark as kesian marks only.
HAiz!!!

May b the lecturer don't want u all to copy from the internet, should do it from scratch. This is important to train u from now never copy direct from the internet. Many student also do like that, but some of the lecturer encourage us go to internet and search coding. Actually, it depends on the lecturer only. If the lecturer "cincai" de, then can copy la..If not, better don't try to copy from internet.
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Post by Daniel Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:21 pm

Rainny08 are u one of the FIT student also?
Actually for our assignment is require a certain algorithms to do the assignment and the algorithms is actually cant find in book but is easy to find in internet.
All of us is trying to modify as much as much we can but one thing the coding cant be modify is the algorithms. But without the algorithms the whole code wouldn't work at all.
So the lecturer is caught us in the algorithms.
So do u think any posible solution beside that.
I think others faculty is doing their assignment like that also, they require a certain thing inside so to fullfilled the requirement .
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Post by bumi dragon lord Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:58 pm

programming is about logic only, well there are a few way you can do the assignment, but the things is you will have to spend alot of time to think about the different logic.
wish you all luck....
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Post by Daniel Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:13 pm

ya u are rite is all about logic thinking.
i totally agree with u.
Different ppl got different logic thinking.
But sometime logic mind is cant generate that much often, so need some outsource to help.
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Post by bumi dragon lord Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:25 pm

well ya, outsource is important but
its up to you guys to think of lah what to do and how you want to do it.

for your information if you can understnad this statement of mine is an advantage for you but you still need to work hard and play smart sometimes.

"if the logic is to be generated in different way, there are alot of pissibility to work on it, one is to change what you have to change, second adopt what you can in creatign your own idea and third combination of the complexity into beautiful work" (source, unknown hacker)
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Post by Daniel Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:30 pm

"Combination of complexity" this statement i like it.
But sometimes complex combine will become worst case scenario, times is limited.
But maybe true when doing something other than assignment really is good, can improve knowledge.
Hacking is good, new thing to explore but require many computer language knowledge.
Even kopitiam is using different computer language.
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